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Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 - proposed amendments.
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UK Home Secretary Alan Johnson has announced that it is a possibility that dog owners, may have to have insurance to protect against claims against them and have their animal microchipped so every dog can be traced back to their owner. Ministers are also considering dog control notices for any animal which "misbehaves". This means that police and council officials could force non-compliant owners to muzzle, lease or neuter their pets and in some cases could be confiscated and given to new owners. These ideas have come about because of the increase in vicious animals being bred for use as weapons, especially on inner city estates.At the moment it is only a criminal offence if a dog is out of control in a public place but Ministers are considering changing that, so if an animal is "dangerously out of control" even if it is not in a public place the owner could be prosectuted, for example it would give extra protection for postmen as the law would apply to private homes. Mr Johnson, who appeared on BBC Breakfast, said "Many of the attacks we have seen have been on small children, dreadful attacks, postal workers etc in front gardens, or in the private property itself. The law doesn't cover that. The first point we have to look at is are the people who are enforcing the law, not just the police, but RSPCA inspectors as well. Do they have enough power to deal with some of these issues?" The proposed amendments to the 1991 Dangerous Dogs Act and consultation articles are as follows:
How do you feel about Alan Johnsons proposals? Do you feel you are being unfairly treated? Do you think the new laws should go further? or do you feel the government have got it right? Defra the government body who is carrying out the consultation would like to hear from any dog owners concerned about Dangerous dogs. Copies of the consultation paper and details of how to add your view are available here. |
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I don't see it as a penalisation- itreflects who are the more responsible owners from the bunch. I think it can be used for or against judiciary cases when dogs are seized- fr example in puppy mills. That amount of dogs will never be microchipped or insured therefore when there is a large seizure it will just add to the list of neglected check points and the dogs will be rewarded to rescue organizations.
Both my dogs are microchipped and have insurance policies- the highest level of- and they have tags around their necks with their names, my name and three differnt phone numbers to reach me- I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY DOGS!!!!!!!!!! |
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As for curbing dangerous dogs- we, as a human race- will always find cruel, money driven idividuals around the world. Insurance or microchipping will not stop that. These things are tools to discern those who do care for their animals from those who don't-unfortunatly, as well as add some costs because of the original use of the breed-ie pittbulls, rottweilers, dobermanns, etc.
Let us not forget that there are no bad dogs, just awful owners! |
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I'm not sure about insuring every dog. All the responsible owners will do it, but the yobs won't. Who will police it? Does a Chihuahua have to be insured the same as a pit bull?? |
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It will be a sure way to penalise responsible owners.Some will just get away with it, it' s a masive operation to police !And as for muzzles a dog in a muzzle is the safest dog going.Used the correct type in the correct way are not cruel to the aimal.Its the owners that need educating.....we are a nation of dog lovers but so ignorant when it comes to it ! |
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as a dog training instructor i dont think it will make a difference poeple will always have dogs that gives them a status & lets them stick out from the rest of good honest dog owners . i have 5 dogs all microchipped & insured . i always tell people when there in the classes to microchip there dogs have a disc on the collars as well ... |
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Why do they keep showing staffs on the news ,my staff has been attacked every time my dog was on a lead,one a german shepard the other a black lab both of the lead.Who decides the dangerous dogs,Its the irrersopnsible owners.Sort them out before destroying family pets.
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Just how do they think they can implement this. Since they abolished the dog license, they have no record of dog owners. I'm in agreement with them over chipping your dog, but third party insuance!!!!!!!!!! you must be bloody joking mate!!!!!
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Once again the government are punishing the responsible dog owner and skirting around the real problem. Only responsible dog owners will pay the insurance -- the people who have illegal breeds and/or have dogs for fighting won't pay it. This will lead to even more strays... as soon as their dog bites someone, they will deny all knowledge, tie it to a lamp post and scarper. They won't microchip because they won't want to be traced! I agree with the quote above - muzzles (humane ones, correctly fitted) are the way to go. I would muzzle my dogs providing that everyone else muzzled theirs. If irresponsible people don't do it, your own dogs can be at a serious disadvantage. However, in my OWN experience, the police do absolutely nothing to chase up dangerous dog owners. Our local publican had two german shepherds that attacked any other dogs. He had been reported no less than 6 times and his dogs were responsible for the death of a greyhound on our street. When they attacked my Yorkie, I pressed charges, but nothing happened except a policeman rang me and said "if he agrees to keep them muzzled, will you withdraw the charges?" After being given a sob story about them being "his family" and so forth, I gave in. 2 DAYS LATER the dogs were walking down the road - no muzzles - NO LEADS!! I got sick of reporting him after about 7 attempts. It was the local dog warden who eventually sorted it out.
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As a responsible dog owner I have no problem with the spirit of the new legislation. My dogs are neutered, micro chipped and insured but it strikes me that this is another piece of knee jerk law making. How is this legislation going to be policed? Are police officers or dog wardens going to be carrying chip readers? Is it going to be an offence not to carry your insurance certificate? What will happen to those who simply won't comply, how will they be caught? The justice system is already under too much pressure from stupid, ill thought out laws, adding another won't make the situation better. This government seems intent on criminalising every one. The Home Secretary has already stated that the majority of dog owners are responsible so why do we need this "catch all" legislation? If people are using dogs as weapons then make that an offence. A lot of folk, myself included, have dogs as a deterrent to burglers, by protecting postmen and milkmen now the burglers will be able to make claims should they be bitten. I have adopted the American system of postal delivery, my postman does'nt have to set foot on my property. No I think this piece of legislation is poorly thought out and seems to be a popularist piece of electioneering. |
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Like everyone else here I feel this legislation will be completely ignored by the very worst dog owners anyway but compulsory microchipping would certainly be something that could work to make people more responsible for the dogs they own if any dogs was found to be unchipped they could be confiscated (but again this would need policing and by who/at what cost)
As for the insurance........... this would be a gem for insurance companies but would doubtless add to the numbers of unwanted/ and stray animals in this economic climate and of course only the most responsible owners would comply. I think a great deal more debate and thought needs to go into any new dog legislation if we are ever to find a really effective way to combat the worst dog owners, but something needs to replace the current irrational "breed based" laws. |
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I will not microchip my dogs. I had a dog who was micro-chipped, (it caused him great pain) he went missing, ended up in shelter, the shelter didn't find the chip, he was adopted by an innocent family, kept by them and their lovely children for 2 years, injured in a RTA, taken to the PDSA, scanned and they contacted me to find out if I would a) claim the dog back from the family and b) pay the vet bill as he was legally my dog! I ended up leaving him with his new family as I couldn't bear to break their hearts so I broke my own instead. What a waste of time, stress on the dog and money micro-chipping is.
I am a responsible dog owner, my dogs are inoculated, socialised and impeccably trained so I won't be bothering with the insurance either and the government can waste my hard earned taxes on catching me and sending me to jail. The whole thing is a farce! |
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How is this handled outside of the UK?
Do you have to buy 3rd party insurance against your dog attacking someone?
Do you have to have your dog microchipped?
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Anonymous said: It will be a sure way to penalise responsible owners.Some will just get away with it, it' s a masive operation to police !And as for muzzles a dog in a muzzle is the safest dog going.Used the correct type in the correct way are not cruel to the aimal.Its the owners that need educating.....we are a nation of dog lovers but so ignorant when it comes to it ! |
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Anonymous said: Once again the government are punishing the responsible dog owner and skirting around the real problem. Only responsible dog owners will pay the insurance -- the people who have illegal breeds and/or have dogs for fighting won't pay it. This will lead to even more strays... as soon as their dog bites someone, they will deny all knowledge, tie it to a lamp post and scarper. They won't microchip because they won't want to be traced! I agree with the quote above - muzzles (humane ones, correctly fitted) are the way to go. I would muzzle my dogs providing that everyone else muzzled theirs. If irresponsible people don't do it, your own dogs can be at a serious disadvantage. However, in my OWN experience, the police do absolutely nothing to chase up dangerous dog owners. Our local publican had two german shepherds that attacked any other dogs. He had been reported no less than 6 times and his dogs were responsible for the death of a greyhound on our street. When they attacked my Yorkie, I pressed charges, but nothing happened except a policeman rang me and said "if he agrees to keep them muzzled, will you withdraw the charges?" After being given a sob story about them being "his family" and so forth, I gave in. 2 DAYS LATER the dogs were walking down the road - no muzzles - NO LEADS!! I got sick of reporting him after about 7 attempts. It was the local dog warden who eventually sorted it out. |
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DoggyMate Administration said:
How is this handled outside of the UK?
Do you have to buy 3rd party insurance against your dog attacking someone?
no, pet insurance has only been available in ireland within the past 5 years and very few people have it and most concider it a waste of money and pay the vet out of their pocket if indeed something does go wrong. and in ireland we have no banned breeds either, but dublin city council has 11 restricted breeds but thats no harm i know an estate in north dublin where they were breeding wolves and selling them as pets and putting them down on the dog licence as german shepherd X husky but in the countryside we can keep whatever dogs we like and the only restriction is they have to be on a lead and muzzeled when in urban areas and you have to be rover 16 to handle a dangerous breed. but statisticaly you are 6 times more likely to be bitten by a jackrussle terrier than a rotwiler, probably because they are cranky little things but they are still more likely to be agressive to their owner. i had a jackrussle once and he nearly took off 2 of my grandmothers fingers so i sold him and made a loss but i had to get rid of him and i dont like getting dogs put down unless they are in terrible pain i think there is always a chance of reform. Do you have to have your dog microchipped?
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